For the first time in this whole ordeal, I was happy to actually see something from Velner. While I was enjoying some good stuff on Netflix, I saw that Velner responded to my video calling his a** out. Here's the response:
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You know why I was so happy to see that reply? Because Velner blew up his big lie with that reply! The lie that he's told over and over about Hannahmontana from Quetzalcoatl and Hannahmontana from Asura (prior to 8/28/2024) being the same person. The lie about anyone coming to HM from Quetz's defense being the same person as HM from Quetz. The lie about HM from Quetz and myself being the same person. All blown up. Velner now sees that I am not HM from Quetz. Velner now sees that HM from Quetz and I are two different people. She's a White woman and I'm a Black man. This realzation has blown Velner's mind and he can't handle the fact that he was dead wrong about his big lie. So what does he do? He deflects and unleashes his massive victim complex.
Velner accuses HM from Quetz of having multiple accounts in his discord. She doesn't. He claimed that HM from Quetz has multiple characters on Fenrir to keep tabs on him. She doesn't. HM from Quetz has never given any thought to Velner at all. Not one bit. She is enjoying her life and all of the good things that come with it. Velner later follows this with saying, "I want you guys to GO AWAY." Let's look at that sentence. "You guys." That's an acknowledgment that he's wrong about the "same person" BS. But again, the statement shows Velner playing victim, and then he says "It was funny at first but now I'm legitimately creeped out." Velner has no right to say that. Velner's the one creeping HM from Quetz out. Velner's the one nauseating me with his bullsh*t. And now, his big lie has been totally blown up with his comment to my video.
Oh, and by the way, people tend to use that "same person" lie to discredit their victims and to make their victim number look smaller so they'll be believed by the public and their buddies. All of the people that Velner's accusing of being HM from Quetz? They are all different and individual people, but he wants to say they're all the same so he'll be believed and he can lower his victim count. In addition, Velner's using that same lie to try to turn HM from Quetz's friends against her. He is trying to isolate HM from Quetz; it's a tactic that's been used many times by many bullies--they lie, gaslight, and manipulate people into turning against their main target. That's what this is, pure gaslighting and manipulation from Velner.
Here's my video exposing Velner as a bold-faced liar, as well as exposing his victim complex:
So on Velner's 8/29/2024 live stream on Twitch, Velner appeared to be apologetic regarding his actions against HM from Quetz. He appeared to admit his wrongdoings against HM from Quetz, including that his "same person" lie was just that: a lie. Yeah, so's the apology. Velner is not sorry one bit. Not one bit. For one, if Velner was really sorry, why not apologize directly to Hannahmontana from Quetz and reach out to her? He never did that. Why did Velner only "apologize" in front of his followers and to his followers? This was done to make himself look good in the eyes of his followers, so they can use his bullsh*t "apology" to defend Velner even more than they already do. Velner also never apologized for attacking Hannahmontana from Quetz and bullying her on a video she had up of being wrongly accused of kicking people from a linkshell, nor has he apologized to my friend Sara, whom tried to play as Taylorswift on Fenrir, for all of the horrible things he's done to her.
Velner has also yet to apologize for falsely accusing HM of Quetz of having characters on Fenrir and kicking everyone from a linkshell known as "GoatsInTrees," and he also hasn't apologized for gaslighting his followers to the point that they felt that they need to harass HM of Quetz's social media by mass downvoting her Reddit posts and her Youtube videos. He also never asked his followers to apologize to HM of Quetz for the immense harassment, nor has he ever told them to stop doing it. Velner also never reached out to AmberMera007 to apologize to her for falsely labelling her as HM of Quetz, and come to think of it, Velner's never apologized to me for making that same accusation towards me. Velner's never admitted to believing the wrong people and choosing to roll with any and all slander against HM of Quetz, nor has he admitted to bullying HM from Quetz and others based on lies he told and told by others. Velner's never admitted to recent bullying, and he's never told his followers that HM from Quetz wasn't behind any kickings on Quetz, was never on Fenrir, and whenever admitted to any of his wrongdoings. And if Velner was really sorry for anything, he wouldn't have left the comment that he did, on my video prior to this one, after having watched my videos put out pointing out so much about Velner.
Let's talk about the other offenders, shall we? Shadowdragon, now known as Serpentdragon. He was the one behind the bad comments about Danders, and he was once more popular than Velner--but not anymore, not after his BS was exposed. Same goes for Spicyryan, after his d**k behavior was exposed, he was on a downward path as well. Not by his choosing. Velner isn't as popular as either of them, yet he's pulling the same sh*t. And there's two more I have to mention: Ben From Alaksa (on YouTube, same name on Twitch) and Ninja Named Jesus (Twitch), two of Velner's followers who have BOLDLY admitted to repeatedly downvoting HM of Quetz's posts on YouTube and on Reddit, and you know what happens when a person's stuff gets mass downvoted? That person gets shadowbanned. It's still happening to HM of Quetz right now. And another deranged offender is Autkast (on Twitch), who believed Velner's despicable lie so much that he resorted to making doxxing threats towards HM of Quetz. Absolutely hideous.
Part of me can't help but wonder if Velner's targeting HM from Quetz because she's autistic. For that matter, I have a feeling Velner picks on me because I'm Black. Can you say "HATE CRIME"?! Especially considering the level of harassment. So no, Velner isn't sorry. Velner isn't remorseful. Velner's not contrite. If Velner is all of those things, then I'm Nathan MacKinnon, and there's no Hart Trophy in my place.
Check out my video where I call out Velner's fake apology:
If Velner was truly sorry, he would tell his watchers on his stream that he was wrong and he would have them spread the word that he was wrong and he bullied HM from Quetz based on bad information, wrong information, and lies, and he would tell them to stop harassing HM of Quetz and to give her a fair chance--as well as to stop the mass downvoting. Velner needs to do the same on Fenrir and on Discord, and he needs to tag everyone on Discord and post a long, long apology admitting to his bullying and slander, basically admit to everything that I just called him out on. When it comes to Velner's live streams on Twitch, the attendance varies. The same people who show up one night, don't appear on the same night. Velner needs to admit he was wrong in front of everyone on the stream and in his linkshells on Fenrir, and he also needs to make that same admission to those who didn't attend any previous streams, especially since they were responsible for the harassment as well. It's not hard to do the right thing.
Here's my first blog detailing Velner's hideous history of stalking and bullying, among other things:
And here's my second blog calling out Velner's continued acts of harassment:
And here's what HM from Quetz had to say about Velner and his BS:
And here's HM from Quetz's blog saying that if she's going to be accused of being HM for Asura, she may as well do it:
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